I think everybody has made some good points, except for Majndat. Brian; If you look at some of the guys you have at "total bust", some of them have had seasons way more productive than any of our recievers. That is what gets me.....My reason for pointing it out is-why not take the risk of drafting a WR 1st or 2nd round when other teams so called "busts" are more productive than our #1 or #2 guys.

Then there is the obvious answer--Young is the problem not the WRs. Which is fine but the Titans should acknowledge that without making a negative knock on Young's confidence. It was good to hear Dinger call his footwork "poor" the other day. It gives me hope that Dinger will hold him accountable, and that there is room
for improvement.

And yes, Mason is light years better than Dyson-no question.
Mason has averaged 83 rec. 1052 yds 5.5 tds over the last 8 years. What's wrong with that.

Just because a guy is drafted in the first round doesn't mean he has to be a superstar hall of fame WR. They make huge contributions to their team (most of them). Take all those guys and put them on one team and tell me what happens. Calling those guys on your list "bust" (the 2nd group) would be crazy talk!

the real point was to show that the first round of the draft is a crap shoot. Your odds are just better at other positions as opposed to a wide out. I would personally try to bring in a free agent wide receiver but one knee injury turns a proven star into a nobody over night. David Givens ring a bell.

Vince Young still has some learning to do and the running game will do more for him than anything else. I have said before that this year will be a telling year for our franchise QB. I think the kid can play at an elite level if he can get a little more focused and eliminate the desperation passes. Eli Manning literally turned from bust to superstar in mid-season because the light turned on in his head and he realized he didn't have to do it all himself. If he will just stop making the stupid interception and Vince will be fine.

brianmaxwell wrote:I am sort of a homer when you talk Kevin Dyson but it is true that many on the #2 or #3 list could be considered busts because of their first round status.

good point... I agree.

Majndat wrote:That's just stupid! What ignorant comments....NEVER TAKE A RECEIVER IN THE FIRST ROUND? Oh, really, Einstein? How well has that worked for us?!!!! . . .

All the NFL GMs would disagree with you this year. None of them drafted a WR in the first round. The choice is wasted if the talent's not there, and there's no point in reaching.

Does anyone else think LaVelle Hawkins has a chance to be a really good player in the league? I really like this kid to shine, just maybe not this year.

Absolutely... I thought he was the better of the two ( D.Jackson ) receivers at Cal. I even had the Titans' taking him in my mock draft, it was in the second, but none the less. On paper, we're fine at the receiver position. With the addition of Hawkins... I'm looking forward to see what Ealy, P.Williams and M.Williams bring to the table.

Onething I've notice over the last couple of days... three of our draft picks have been compared to players in the NFL. Hawkins is being comapred to Mason, Jones to Tuck and Johnson to Westbrook. Those are great players to be compared to, and if it turns out that way, we have to consider the Titans' 08' draft as one of the best "internally", right up there with the 74' Steelers'. What I mean when I say that is the amount of talent we're getting out of one draft... we would have to win a Superbowl in the next couple of years, and some of these guys would have to go to the HOF to make it legit, but the concept is still there. You also have to consider there were approximately 21 rounds back then, so we would be getting more talent in fewer rounds.

That being said... This kind of coverage needs to be taken with a grain of salt, and I'm just hoping the players in this years draft become solid starters and create value and depth.

I almost hated to actually grade the draft but you really have to put some kind of label on it for people to read it. I made a point to say twice that we will not know how good the players from this draft are for three years.

You have people who will say we should have taken a receiver in the first round. I am not one of those people.
I am in the other group who thinks the players we drafted will become good players but a few of them may have been a reach at the spot they were taken.

We drafted average linemen. Saying that, Jim Washburn has been getting average linemen paid like elite players by other teams for years. He trains them up like noone else can and then they jump ship. I guess since all of them seem to fail after they leave, the joke is on them.

brianmaxwell wrote: You have people who will say we should have taken a receiver in the first round. I am not one of those people.

I agree... I've said before, Johnson is going to be more beneficial for Young than a first round receiver would have been.

brianmaxwell wrote:Does anyone else think LaVelle Hawkins has a chance to be a really good player in the league? I really like this kid to shine, just maybe not this year.

Yes. He'll make the roster over a draft pick from 07.

Does his first name start with a "C", and his last name start with a "D".